---Dream Big--- King Lear has a terrible quarrel with his favorite daughter, Cordelia because he wants each of his three daughters to express how much they love him. He has decided to resign his position as king, split Britain into three parts, and grant each daughter a portion of the land to rule as queen. He decides that he will take turns residing with each daughter in their kingdom. He also decides that whatever daughter can prove their love for him is greatest will receive the largest piece of land. His two eldest daughters continuously express how their love and admirableness for him exceeds everyone else’s. Goneril, the eldest sister states, “Sir, I love you more than words can wield the matter; Dearer than eye-sight, space, and liberty…” Also, Regan, the middle sister states, “In my true heart I find she names my very deed of love; only she comes too short…” King Lear’s youngest daughter, Cordelia, argues that she will not compete with her sisters to express her love for him. She states, “…I cannot heave my heart into my mouth.” I really like this quote because she is telling her father that she cannot express her love for him into words and she shouldn’t have to. She also goes on to say that she loves him as a daughter should love a father no more and no less. In addition she also states that if her sisters love her father as much as they claim, then they wouldn’t have taken on husbands. I disagree with this statement for the simple fact that even though someone gets married, the love for their parents don’t decrease, only the roles they play in a familial sense. I do however agree with her for not taking advantage of her father and joining in with her sister’s conniving scheme.
King Lear really just wants his daughters to tell him how much they love him using flowery words and wild metaphors. Whether he wants this because he actually believes their speeches to be true or only as some sort of power/pride move to make himself feel grander and make the onlookers know that even though he is gifting the land to them he is still over them, requires insight I don’t have; however I do know that Goneril and Regan only speak lies to benefit themselves. I agree with Dream Big about Cordelia’s quote, “…I cannot heave my heart into my mouth.” That she is truthfully telling her father that she shouldn’t be forced to try to describe her true love for him through words. I disagree, though, with Dream Big about his disagreement with Cordelia’s other quote, “Why have my sisters husbands, if they love you all?” I don’t think this is a statement by her that when you marry someone your love for your parents diminishes, just that her sisters’ boasts of their love like, “I profess myself an enemy to all other joys,” to be farfetched as their actions contradict them, which is why when Lear asks her what she can say to prove her love to be more than her sisters’ she says, “Nothing, my lord.” She knows that doing proves love, not saying; exemplified in the quote, “I return those duties back as are right fit, obey you, love you, and most honor you.” Cordelia couldn’t follow her sisters in just giving their father what he wants because she loves him and knows that telling him the truth is really what’s best for him.
King Lear doesn't seem to realize what love is.You see this because he seems to think that professing love with words means more than actually showing it.King Lear wants a contest between his three daughters to see who loves him the most in order to see which daughter deserves his land.What King Lear doesn't realize is that is that fancy or elaborate words can never show who loves him the most."Why have my sisters husbands, if they say / they love you all?" she asks pointedly.This point made by Cordelia is showing that Cordelia isn't sugar coating anything and she is going to tell her father how it is.She would rather be honest and tell him the truth than lie to get something she wants.This is why the other sisters are portrayed as evil.Dandelion also touches on this point and I think it is a very important quote from the passage.When the other two sisters are buttering up to their father you can clearly see that they are only doing this because they want what benefits themselves.I agree with Dandelion on his view of that previous quote.The King seems to take what Cordelia says the wrong way.Her point was proving that she isn't lying to make him see her love for him.When Big Dream states how Cordelia goes on to tell her father that she loves him as a daughter should love a father no more and no less I kind of feel that she is doing this because (agreeing with Dream Big)there are no words to express the love she has for her father.When Cordelia speaks the words "Unhappy that I am, I cannot heave My heart into my mouth. I love your majesty.According to my bond; no more nor less."the King clearly mistakens the authenticy of her love for him.This goes to show that words are sometimes empty you can only see someones love for you by their actions.Clearly King Lear does not understand this concept.He seems to have a lot to learn.Dream Big disagrees with how Cordelia feels about marriage.She seems to think that if you have a husband it isn't possible to love your father as much.I disagree with Dream Big because I see Cordelia's point.Once you are married you tend to put them in front of your immediate family.
King Lear is retiring from his position and wants to divide up Britain in three parts for each of his three daughters. In order for them to get a section of Britian, they must express their love for their father. Each daughter tells them that they love them more than their own husbands, and Cordelia does not see this as true. She respnds to her father by saying “What have my sisters husbands, if they say they love you all?”(pg 1145 Line 99). She brings up a good point that if you love you father so much. How can you love your husband at all. She has a thought that they are after his crown and land. They are given the title and only asked to take care of the King in his old age. I agree with Anonymous in saying that when you marry your love does not change because it is a different kind of love. However, Cordelia chooses the right way when she does not go along with her sisters. She realizes what they are doing and wants no part of it. King Lear does not know what real daughter love is. He just wants to secure a place for himself since he is getting old. He wants to be taken care of and loved till he dies. This is what any father wants in his old life. Instead, the daughter plot against him because now they are given a title and all the land that they need to be wealthy.
I agree with redvelvet. King Lear announces that he wants to divide his kingdom among his three daughters. He decides this by, as redvelvet said, only words. He wants his daughters to profess, in words, to him how much they love him. The two oldest daughters do as he said and showered him with all sorts of sweet nothings. But Cordelia, Lear’s youngest daughter, refuses to say anything. She states “And yet not so; since, I am sure, my love’s more ponderous than my tongue.” By this she is saying that she simply cannot explain in words how much she loves her father. As redvelvet said, Cordelia expresses to her father that if her other two sisters were to love him as they say, they would not be married. I think that in some way Lear may have been testing all of the sisters. Lear asks Cordelia “How, Cordelia! Mean your speech a little, lest it may mar your fortunes.” Cordelia responds to her father, “You have begot me, bred me, loved me; I return those duties back as are right fit, obey you, love you, and most honor you.” By this, Cordelia is saying that she loves her father for everything he has ever done for her. However, she is not going to lie to him in order for her to get his fortune. I believe in the long run this makes Cordelia look like a better person and a better daughter. I disagree with redvelvet’s final point, the love for a father wouldn’t change just because you have a husband. I believe it is a different kind of love.
Lear wants Cordelia to show she love him and express it in a joyful matter than how she did, I also feel he expected more from her. The main reason I feel Cordelia hasnt expressed herself the way her sisters did because she is trying to prove a point that it shouldnt be a competition, everyone expresses their feelings in different ways and I dont think King Lear understands that. I agree with redvelvet I dont think Lear understands the true defenition of love and how it should be expressed. I feel that how the sisters show their love was fake and not sincere. I understand that he wanted to see how they truly felt towards him before he separated his shares, but at the same time she was more truthful which to me showed she cared more. When Cordelia quoted "Love and be silent" that made me feel as if she shouldnt have to scream and shout for attention to show she loved him in my opinion Loyalty lies within the heart. She felt that love for her father should be different from how you love your husband which is true and its obvious that you shouldnt be in love with your father but you should love him as a person and who he truly is.
I would have to say that I agree with Dandelion when he or she stated that King Lear just wanted his daughters to tell him how much they love him using words that sounded good in hopes of persuading King Lear. King Lear was getting old and trying to give up his position to his three daughters. He was going to divide Britain up between the three. The words that Goneril and Regan spoke must have sounded good because he believed them. On the other hand, his younger daughter, Cordelia, didn't fall for the sweet words her sisters said to their father. Goneril and Regan told their father that they love him more than their husbands. Cordelia said, "What have my sisters' husbands, if they say they love you all?". Cordelia's statement was very true. It made alot of sense. I mean, what do their husbands have if their father has all of their love? Cordelia knows that her sisters are up to no good. King Lear gets mad at Cordelia for not believing her sisters. I also agree with redvelvet when he or she stated that King Lear has to be the type of person that believes that words are stronger than actions. The thing that I like about Cordelia is that she believes that action speaks louder than words, and it really does. The daughters that King Lear thinks love him most, tries to get King Lear to give up some of his men. This makes Lear furious and he probably starts to realize which daughter loved him most and regret the things he said to Cordelia.
I would have to agree with Dream Big on this one. In Act I, King Lear has a terrible quarrel with his favorite daughter Cordelia. In his effort to relinquish his inheritance to his daughters, he desires to split the kingdom in three so that they may reign equally in his absence. He gives them the task of who can prove their love the greatest, resulting in the greatest portion of land. Goneril goes first, responding with an excess of overblown and exaggerated words describing her love for Lear as greater than life itself. "Beyond wealth, value, space and freedom." Her love and poetic stance is conniving, and full of shaky pillars. Then Regan goes even further almost making her false love obvious in that she says Goneril's words are exactly how her love is for him. She displayed them precisely she says, but she digs deeper to say that all joy is lost unless she has his love. It is the thing she lives upon. Then Lear turns to Cordelia, as his favorite, he eagerly waits for her response. And she says this, "Unhappy that I am, I cannot heave my heart into my mouth. I love your majesty according to my bond; no more nor less." In contrast to the empty words of both Regan and Goneril, Cordelia responds with a statement of integrity. She can not force herself to lie about her love, and speak fallacies instead of showing her love. She loves him as a true daughter, not desiring wealth, but connected by bond. It is this that angers Lear in his futile blindness. He sees it as a lack of compassion and love for him, when it is much the opposite. It causes him to make an unforgiving decision in banishing her and giving the land to the other daughters. Changing the course of history forever.
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ReplyDeleteKing Lear has a terrible quarrel with his favorite daughter, Cordelia because he wants each of his three daughters to express how much they love him. He has decided to resign his position as king, split Britain into three parts, and grant each daughter a portion of the land to rule as queen. He decides that he will take turns residing with each daughter in their kingdom. He also decides that whatever daughter can prove their love for him is greatest will receive the largest piece of land.
His two eldest daughters continuously express how their love and admirableness for him exceeds everyone else’s. Goneril, the eldest sister states, “Sir, I love you more than words can wield the matter; Dearer than eye-sight, space, and liberty…” Also, Regan, the middle sister states, “In my true heart I find she names my very deed of love; only she comes too short…” King Lear’s youngest daughter, Cordelia, argues that she will not compete with her sisters to express her love for him. She states, “…I cannot heave my heart into my mouth.” I really like this quote because she is telling her father that she cannot express her love for him into words and she shouldn’t have to. She also goes on to say that she loves him as a daughter should love a father no more and no less. In addition she also states that if her sisters love her father as much as they claim, then they wouldn’t have taken on husbands. I disagree with this statement for the simple fact that even though someone gets married, the love for their parents don’t decrease, only the roles they play in a familial sense. I do however agree with her for not taking advantage of her father and joining in with her sister’s conniving scheme.
King Lear really just wants his daughters to tell him how much they love him using flowery words and wild metaphors. Whether he wants this because he actually believes their speeches to be true or only as some sort of power/pride move to make himself feel grander and make the onlookers know that even though he is gifting the land to them he is still over them, requires insight I don’t have; however I do know that Goneril and Regan only speak lies to benefit themselves. I agree with Dream Big about Cordelia’s quote, “…I cannot heave my heart into my mouth.” That she is truthfully telling her father that she shouldn’t be forced to try to describe her true love for him through words. I disagree, though, with Dream Big about his disagreement with Cordelia’s other quote, “Why have my sisters husbands, if they love you all?” I don’t think this is a statement by her that when you marry someone your love for your parents diminishes, just that her sisters’ boasts of their love like, “I profess myself an enemy to all other joys,” to be farfetched as their actions contradict them, which is why when Lear asks her what she can say to prove her love to be more than her sisters’ she says, “Nothing, my lord.” She knows that doing proves love, not saying; exemplified in the quote, “I return those duties back as are right fit, obey you, love you, and most honor you.” Cordelia couldn’t follow her sisters in just giving their father what he wants because she loves him and knows that telling him the truth is really what’s best for him.
ReplyDeleteKing Lear doesn't seem to realize what love is.You see this because he seems to think that professing love with words means more than actually showing it.King Lear wants a contest between his three daughters to see who loves him the most in order to see which daughter deserves his land.What King Lear doesn't realize is that is that fancy or elaborate words can never show who loves him the most."Why have my sisters husbands, if they say / they love you all?" she asks pointedly.This point made by Cordelia is showing that Cordelia isn't sugar coating anything and she is going to tell her father how it is.She would rather be honest and tell him the truth than lie to get something she wants.This is why the other sisters are portrayed as evil.Dandelion also touches on this point and I think it is a very important quote from the passage.When the other two sisters are buttering up to their father you can clearly see that they are only doing this because they want what benefits themselves.I agree with Dandelion on his view of that previous quote.The King seems to take what Cordelia says the wrong way.Her point was proving that she isn't lying to make him see her love for him.When Big Dream states how Cordelia goes on to tell her father that she loves him as a daughter should love a father no more and no less I kind of feel that she is doing this because (agreeing with Dream Big)there are no words to express the love she has for her father.When Cordelia speaks the words "Unhappy that I am, I cannot heave My heart into my mouth. I love your majesty.According to my bond; no more nor less."the King clearly mistakens the authenticy of her love for him.This goes to show that words are sometimes empty you can only see someones love for you by their actions.Clearly King Lear does not understand this concept.He seems to have a lot to learn.Dream Big disagrees with how Cordelia feels about marriage.She seems to think that if you have a husband it isn't possible to love your father as much.I disagree with Dream Big because I see Cordelia's point.Once you are married you tend to put them in front of your immediate family.
ReplyDeleteKing Lear is retiring from his position and wants to divide up Britain in three parts for each of his three daughters. In order for them to get a section of Britian, they must express their love for their father. Each daughter tells them that they love them more than their own husbands, and Cordelia does not see this as true. She respnds to her father by saying “What have my sisters husbands, if they say they love you all?”(pg 1145 Line 99). She brings up a good point that if you love you father so much. How can you love your husband at all. She has a thought that they are after his crown and land. They are given the title and only asked to take care of the King in his old age. I agree with Anonymous in saying that when you marry your love does not change because it is a different kind of love. However, Cordelia chooses the right way when she does not go along with her sisters. She realizes what they are doing and wants no part of it. King Lear does not know what real daughter love is. He just wants to secure a place for himself since he is getting old. He wants to be taken care of and loved till he dies. This is what any father wants in his old life. Instead, the daughter plot against him because now they are given a title and all the land that they need to be wealthy.
ReplyDeleteI agree with redvelvet. King Lear announces that he wants to divide his kingdom among his three daughters. He decides this by, as redvelvet said, only words. He wants his daughters to profess, in words, to him how much they love him. The two oldest daughters do as he said and showered him with all sorts of sweet nothings. But Cordelia, Lear’s youngest daughter, refuses to say anything. She states “And yet not so; since, I am sure, my love’s more ponderous than my tongue.” By this she is saying that she simply cannot explain in words how much she loves her father. As redvelvet said, Cordelia expresses to her father that if her other two sisters were to love him as they say, they would not be married. I think that in some way Lear may have been testing all of the sisters. Lear asks Cordelia “How, Cordelia! Mean your speech a little, lest it may mar your fortunes.” Cordelia responds to her father, “You have begot me, bred me, loved me; I return those duties back as are right fit, obey you, love you, and most honor you.” By this, Cordelia is saying that she loves her father for everything he has ever done for her. However, she is not going to lie to him in order for her to get his fortune. I believe in the long run this makes Cordelia look like a better person and a better daughter. I disagree with redvelvet’s final point, the love for a father wouldn’t change just because you have a husband. I believe it is a different kind of love.
ReplyDeleteLear wants Cordelia to show she love him and express it in a joyful matter than how she did, I also feel he expected more from her. The main reason I feel Cordelia hasnt expressed herself the way her sisters did because she is trying to prove a point that it shouldnt be a competition, everyone expresses their feelings in different ways and I dont think King Lear understands that. I agree with redvelvet I dont think Lear understands the true defenition of love and how it should be expressed. I feel that how the sisters show their love was fake and not sincere. I understand that he wanted to see how they truly felt towards him before he separated his shares, but at the same time she was more truthful which to me showed she cared more. When Cordelia quoted "Love and be silent" that made me feel as if she shouldnt have to scream and shout for attention to show she loved him in my opinion Loyalty lies within the heart. She felt that love for her father should be different from how you love your husband which is true and its obvious that you shouldnt be in love with your father but you should love him as a person and who he truly is.
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I would have to say that I agree with Dandelion when he or she stated that King Lear just wanted his daughters to tell him how much they love him using words that sounded good in hopes of persuading King Lear. King Lear was getting old and trying to give up his position to his three daughters. He was going to divide Britain up between the three. The words that Goneril and Regan spoke must have sounded good because he believed them. On the other hand, his younger daughter, Cordelia, didn't fall for the sweet words her sisters said to their father. Goneril and Regan told their father that they love him more than their husbands. Cordelia said, "What have my sisters' husbands, if they say they love you all?". Cordelia's statement was very true. It made alot of sense. I mean, what do their husbands have if their father has all of their love? Cordelia knows that her sisters are up to no good. King Lear gets mad at Cordelia for not believing her sisters. I also agree with redvelvet when he or she stated that King Lear has to be the type of person that believes that words are stronger than actions. The thing that I like about Cordelia is that she believes that action speaks louder than words, and it really does. The daughters that King Lear thinks love him most, tries to get King Lear to give up some of his men. This makes Lear furious and he probably starts to realize which daughter loved him most and regret the things he said to Cordelia.
ReplyDeleteI would have to agree with Dream Big on this one. In Act I, King Lear has a terrible quarrel with his favorite daughter Cordelia. In his effort to relinquish his inheritance to his daughters, he desires to split the kingdom in three so that they may reign equally in his absence. He gives them the task of who can prove their love the greatest, resulting in the greatest portion of land. Goneril goes first, responding with an excess of overblown and exaggerated words describing her love for Lear as greater than life itself. "Beyond wealth, value, space and freedom." Her love and poetic stance is conniving, and full of shaky pillars. Then Regan goes even further almost making her false love obvious in that she says Goneril's words are exactly how her love is for him. She displayed them precisely she says, but she digs deeper to say that all joy is lost unless she has his love. It is the thing she lives upon. Then Lear turns to Cordelia, as his favorite, he eagerly waits for her response. And she says this, "Unhappy that I am, I cannot heave my heart into my mouth. I love your majesty according to my bond; no more nor less." In contrast to the empty words of both Regan and Goneril, Cordelia responds with a statement of integrity. She can not force herself to lie about her love, and speak fallacies instead of showing her love. She loves him as a true daughter, not desiring wealth, but connected by bond. It is this that angers Lear in his futile blindness. He sees it as a lack of compassion and love for him, when it is much the opposite. It causes him to make an unforgiving decision in banishing her and giving the land to the other daughters. Changing the course of history forever.
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